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Not Right Now: Re-Engaging a Family After a Renewal Says No

A school owner asked me when to bring leadership up again after a family says not right now. If you’re asking that question, the problem could have been upstream in the process.

A martial arts goal worksheet on a wooden table, a line climbing from a low mark up to a Black Belt, one chair pulled back and empty

Here’s the question:

“Once you talk to someone about joining leadership and they say not right now, when do you bring it up again? And how does that conversation go? Hi Mrs. Johnson, I know you said no before, but how about… now?

He already knows that script is bad. That’s why he asked. And he’s right that there’s a better way, but it doesn’t live in a cleverer opening line or a “magic” phrase.

There are three things to address here, in order. What happened at the conference. Why there should never be a disconnection in the first place. And only then, how to re-engage a family who slipped through the cracks anyway.

Why doesn’t “I know you said no, but how about now?” work?

An instructor in a white uniform and Black Belt sliding a page back across a table to a mother and father, the climbing line on it stopping flat partway up
Because you’re handing the parent their words back and asking them to defend a position they already took. Psychologically this makes you an adversary. Nothing has changed for them. Their reasons didn’t (or more importantly their emotions about it) change. Any approach that works starts by putting something new on the table first, then lets the decision follow from that. New information, new experience, or a new agreement. Never a repeat ask.

Say a family “no” out loud and it stops being a preference. It becomes a stance they own, and people work hard to stay consistent with the stances they own (Cialdini & Goldstein, 2004). Reopening it head-on invites them to prove they meant it.

Two biases are working at the same time here. The first is the consistency principle: once a person states a position out loud, holding to it protects how they see themselves, so they end up defending it harder than they ever actually believed it (Cialdini & Goldstein, 2004). The parent isn’t being stubborn. They’re being consistent.

The second is psychological reactance. People push back when they feel their freedom to choose is being squeezed, and the push-back gets aimed at whoever squeezed (Steindl et al., 2015). Ask a second time and you trigger both at once: they defend the position, and they resent being asked. That’s the adversarial seat, and you put yourself in it.

Worse, most of those no’s weren’t no’s at all. Matthew Dixon and Ted McKenna studied more than two and a half million sales conversations and found that between 40 and 60 percent of stalled deals die in indecision, not rejection (Dixon & McKenna, 2022). The buyer isn’t choosing a competitor. They’re afraid of getting it wrong. (also see my article on decision anxiety for more)

Their second finding is the one that decides how you follow up. Buyers fear messing up far more than they fear missing out. Turn up the pressure and you turn up the fear, and the family gets more stuck, not less. Every re-ask is pressure.

The Principle
You don’t re-ask a closed question. You create a new event, and you let the renewal come out of the new event. That’s the difference between a follow-up and a nag.

What actually happened at the renewal conference?

The KarateBuilt Past, Present, Future Success worksheet seen from above, its climbing line unfinished, a pen resting exactly where the line stops
Diagnose before you re-approach, because whatever caused the issue is still there. Five things go wrong most often: the family never pictured life past the basic program, one person in the room never agreed to the target, nobody “got” what earning it would change about the child, the family showed up cold, or money came up before the goal was built. Each one has a different repair.

A lot can happen in that room. Run these five checks before you touch the phone.

1. Was there a vision for Black Belt and Beyond?

Not the belt. The path past it. If the parent can’t see their child two years past the basic program, the leadership conversation is a stranger showing up asking for money. Vision comes first, always. (see article on Past Present Future for more detail on how to do it)

2. Did everyone agree to the goal?

Everyone means both parents and the student (and anyone in charge of finances, schedule, transportation and custody). One parent checking their screen who never said the word “yes” is your no, showing up two weeks late. A student who never said it out loud will tell his mom he’s tired of karate the same week you call.

3. Was there a clear outcome, and a clear transformation?

These are two different things, and skipping the second one is the most common miss I see.

Outcome

What they get. “He earns his Black Belt.” Concrete, dated, on a wall. (in fact we write on their belt so they remember)

Transformation

What changes because they got it. “He’ll finish what he starts, and I’ll stop fighting him about homework.” And BIGGER goals when they are an adult. That’s what the parent is actually buying – a successful, happy, capable adult.

An outcome with no transformation attached to it is a purchase. An outcome the parent has connected to their own life at home is a decision. Goal research has said the same thing for decades: specific, personally owned goals drive effort in a way that general encouragement never does (Locke & Latham, 2002).

4. Was the family prepped, and were they an A?

You graded them at the progress check for a reason. An A-plus family renews on the spot. A B or a C never should have been asked for a decision that day. If you discussed leadership to a C family, you didn’t get a no. You got a receipt for skipping a step.

5. Did you handle the money right, and did you listen?

Options, not one number. Price last after the goal is set, not first. And listening far more than half the time. If you did most of the talking in that conference, you don’t know why they said no, which means you have nothing to re-engage with. The whole conversation that builds this is the Past, Present, Future progress check, and it’s worth rerunning before anything else on this page.

What does “no disconnection” actually mean?

The Past, Present, Future worksheet beside a calendar, one date circled, the climbing line running off the page and continuing onto that date
It means a family never leaves your school without a next date and something to do before it. Two pieces, every single time, whatever they decided. A specific appointment tied to what you just discussed, plus one task (this is something we do) that moves the parent and the student closer to A status. Homework, a discipline sheet, a private lesson, a leadership class. The task makes the next meeting significant, instead of you bothering them again.

Here’s the part that answers the original question. Even when check number one through five all went perfectly and the family still says not right now, you’re not done. You set the follow-up before they stand up.

How Every Meeting Ends
1. A follow-up appointment, on the calendar, chosen because of what you just talked about. 2. An intermediate action step that happens in between, with a piece for the parent and a piece for the student. No exceptions, no “we’ll touch base.”

That second piece is what makes the first one work. Deciding when, where, and how a thing will happen, in advance, moves people from intention to action at a rate that intention alone never reaches. Peter Gollwitzer named these implementation intentions, and the meta-analysis across 94 independent tests found a medium-to-large effect on actually reaching the goal (Gollwitzer, 1999; Gollwitzer & Sheeran, 2006).

“Let’s revisit this in a few months” is an intention. “Thursday the 24th at 5:15, and between now and then he does the discipline sheet Monday, Wednesday, Friday and you initial it” is a plan. One of those creates a next conversation. The other creates a phone call you’ll dread making.

Run this rule everywhere and the question of when to bring it up again stops existing. You already know when. It’s on the calendar, and it’s a week or two out, not a month or two.

What do you say at the follow-up appointment?

The Past, Present, Future worksheet on a table with a parent's hands at one edge and an instructor's hands at the other, the climbing line rising toward the future end
You review the assignment, not the decision. Open with what the child did since you last met, let the parent(s) know what your instructors saw, and ask what they noticed at home. The goal sheet comes out and gets updated. If the work happened and the parent liked the result, the leadership conversation reopens itself. Re-do the Past Present Future conversation. You never say the words “last time you said no.”

The tone is a coach reviewing progress, because that’s what it is. Nobody is defending anything.

“Two weeks ago you told me the thing driving you crazy was that he quits on anything hard. We put the discipline sheet in. Show me how it went.” Then listen. Then add what you saw on the floor that they missed.

Now pull out the goal sheet, the one from the intro, and do a personal review against it and the Past Present Future sheet that should be all marked up with lots of outcomes. What did we say we wanted? Where are we? What’s the next belt, and what’s the path to the Black Belt from here? That question isn’t a close. It’s a status update, and it does the closing for you.

If they’re still not ready, you already know the ending: another date, another action step. Repeat until they’re an A or they tell you plainly to stop.

How do you re-engage a family who slipped through anyway?

A young student wearing a new Black Belt standing between his proud mother and father on the school floor
Some will, and this is the last resort, if someone slips through the cracks. Fourteen approaches, and each one earns its way back to a booked progress check instead of reopening the pitch cold. Group them four ways: build a fresh starting point, correct a misunderstanding, change a variable in the room, or state your conviction plainly and then stop talking. All fourteen work better used before a no than after one.

These come straight off the KarateBuilt renewal training. Read every one as a way to earn a new appointment, never as a way to re-ask the question.

Build a fresh starting point

  1. Progress check every semester. Not tied to a contract date. Tied to the calendar, for everybody. This is for all students regardless of status! (longer conversation how to implement)
  2. Progress check right after testing. The belt just changed. The moment is doing half your work.
  3. A 15 to 20 minute private lesson. Cheap for you, enormous for them, and it creates something new to talk about.
  4. The goal sheets, used for a personal review. Their handwriting, their words, their goals. You’re just reading it back.
  5. Reset the goal outright. “You do still want him to earn a Black Belt, right?” Then rebuild from that answer.
  6. Assign an action step from the 10 Basic Action Steps, and book the review of it.

There’s a reason the semester and the test work better than a date you picked off the calendar. People start over at the edges of things. Gym visits, diets, and fresh commitments all spike right after a temporal landmark, with the start of a new semester among the strongest (Dai et al., 2014). Your testing cycle is a landmark generator. Use it.

Correct the misunderstanding

Most not-right-nows are one of three misunderstandings, and none of them are about wanting the Black Belt less.

  1. The schedule. “Let’s sit down and figure out how to make the schedule work.” Half the time that’s the entire objection.
  2. The basic program. They’ll say they want to wait until the basic program is over. Ask them, plainly: “You’re 100% sure you want him to quit at Green Belt?” They’ve never once thought of it that way, because nobody framed it that way. Be clear because they ARE going to quit if they don’t renew.
  3. The money, and how much of it. Waiting doesn’t save them anything. Waiting costs them roughly $10,000 more to reach the same Black Belt. “You do want to save the $10,000, don’t you?” That is not a trick. It’s arithmetic they were never shown (or if they were shown, remind them).

Change a variable

  1. Send a different person. The relationship, is often what’s missing. A different instructor may get a different answer.
  2. Use the 3 C’s. Confirm, Connect, Continue. Confirm where they are, connect it to what they told you they wanted, continue the path.
  3. Have them fill out the application. Or fill it out with them (or just review it again). Small commitments make bigger ones easier, and a form in their handwriting changes the conversation more than another explanation will.
  4. Sweeten the deal, with integrity. A private lesson, a seminar seat. One rule: if you wouldn’t hand it to the family who said yes on the spot, don’t hand it to this one. Buying a renewal costs more than losing one.

State your conviction, then stop

  1. Say the true thing out loud. When a parent finally asks why you keep bringing it up, you get one clean shot, and it is not a technique.

“Because we know training for Black Belt is going to be the best thing you have ever done for him. The skills he learns will carry into his adult life, and I want you to know we’re not going to give up on him. He needs to earn his Black Belt.”

Say it once, warmly, and then be quiet. Don’t stack a request on the end of it. If it lands, they’ll tell you. If it doesn’t, you’ve still told a parent you’re not the kind of school that quits on their kid, and that gets remembered long after the renewal window closes.

Do this before your next renewal conference

A stack of student folders each with a climbing line inked on the cover, the top folder open to a circled future date

Pull the list of every family who told you not right now in the last 90 days. Next to each name, write the reason they gave. If you can’t write it, you didn’t listen. Now, 100% of these families gets a progress check.

Then fix the upstream problem for good. Starting with your next conference, nobody leaves the room without being prepped, setting a goal for Black Belt and Beyond and thorough review and then if it’s not now, a date on the calendar and an action step with their name on it. Do that for 90 days and the re-engage list gets short enough to clear in one sitting.

Lastly, remember the target is to renew 75% or more – if you’re in that range, you may be doing everything well! You’ll still lose a few but have the right target in sight!

– Chief Master Greg Moody, Ph.D.

References

Cialdini, R. B., & Goldstein, N. J. (2004). Social influence: Compliance and conformity. Annual Review of Psychology, 55, 591–621. https://doi.org/10.1146/annurev.psych.55.090902.142015

Brehm, J. W. (1966). A theory of psychological reactance. Academic Press.

Dai, H., Milkman, K. L., & Riis, J. (2014). The fresh start effect: Temporal landmarks motivate aspirational behavior. Management Science, 60(10), 2563–2582. https://doi.org/10.1287/mnsc.2014.1901

Dixon, M., & McKenna, T. (2022, June 8). Stop losing sales to customer indecision. Harvard Business Review. https://hbr.org/2022/06/stop-losing-sales-to-customer-indecision

Gollwitzer, P. M. (1999). Implementation intentions: Strong effects of simple plans. American Psychologist, 54(7), 493–503. https://doi.org/10.1037/0003-066X.54.7.493

Gollwitzer, P. M., & Sheeran, P. (2006). Implementation intentions and goal achievement: A meta-analysis of effects and processes. Advances in Experimental Social Psychology, 38, 69–119. https://doi.org/10.1016/S0065-2601(06)38002-1

Steindl, C., Jonas, E., Sittenthaler, S., Traut-Mattausch, E., & Greenberg, J. (2015). Understanding psychological reactance: New developments and findings. Zeitschrift für Psychologie, 223(4), 205–214. https://doi.org/10.1027/2151-2604/a000222

Locke, E. A., & Latham, G. P. (2002). Building a practically useful theory of goal setting and task motivation: A 35-year odyssey. American Psychologist, 57(9), 705–717. https://doi.org/10.1037/0003-066X.57.9.705